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Collins 618T-3 Aircraft Radio.
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k0ip K IP 618T-2 page A work in progress. and the ARC-105 page, This web's a collection of Books, Schematics, useful info, supplied by various 618T users, When I was building my 618 system I had to search here & there to find information. Somewhat frustrating at times, So I've tried to bring it all together in one place. once I started then many of you (HAMS) send more documents. How Good can it get, hams helping hams. keep that info coming, ur pictures too. NOW, if you see something in ERROR, Please let me know so I can fix it .. HELP !! If you have any updated, PDF's of books, personal stories, or have any 618 and related equipment for sale , or know a source of 618's, parts and pieces and accessories please send me the info so I can get it on this web. my email is k0ip((at))k0ip.com call 208 251 6441 FYI: There's a Collins 618T User Group
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BACKGROUND STATEMENT.. Warning: I am not trying to tell anyone that I am an expert, I really have little knowledge about the radio's internal circuits, other than what I can learn from reading the instruction books and schematics. note there are many experts on the user group listed above !! I first saw one of these marvels when I went to a MARS convention in St Louis MO, in the early 60's. I was still in high school, and a new ham... The Collins guy had a wire out a window and was dialing in frequencies and talking with Cedar Rapids (?). This freq, then that freq, then another, it was like magic WOW what a radio. If your old enough to remember. I had a 20A using a ARC-5 command set VFO.... I never thought much about getting 618T on the air, until my friend Math ON8PO convinced me I should do it. (see his private military radio collection at this link ON8PO Truly amazing ) So I did, now I have two working units, one being the MRC-95 jeep configuration. I'm now looking for a 24 volt jeep at a price that doesn't break my bank account or my marriage .. HI HI There are 3 versions of this radio, none of them are very user friendly as far as the power requirements! From what I know, the T3 is the only model that's easy to get power for, its mostly brute force 24VDC (see below 24VDC) and a small amount of 115V/400cycle. However, I have received letters from folks with large 400cycle motor-generators powering other 618T versions . The 400 cycle power is a problem, but nothing that can't be overcome. see below 400Hz Be careful what you buy, I bought a 516H-1 thinking would make 400 cycles, it doesn't !! For a 618T3 What
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These books are provided free for Amateur Radio use only.
618T-2 in the C-141
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OK Guys, Luke AC5XP has a great video on YouTube
that explains this radio. A lot of info about all the modules, and
power supply options.. ++ more CHECK IT OUT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHs31HJLmM |
400 hz POWER SUPPLY
INFO
For more info about the power |
Collins 426T-1 400 cycle power supply, this supply is used in the MRC-95 This is rated at 115Vac Square wave, 400Hz, 630VA 426T1 400Hz power supply book bigger view, Front Back EKCO STATIC INVERTER-E182 |
Another Collins inverter, made for also a T-195 Dynamotor will probable work if its all you can find, as might other dynamotor type devices .
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this 400 cycles Supply DOES WORK, in use its only rated at 150VA ?? $49 at Murphy's STATIC INVERTER from a reader of this web page A source of a 400 cycle power inverter is the PP-2352 that converted
28V DC to 115V 400 cycles. They were used in the Jeep
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Here's another one !!!
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24 VDC
supply
One possible recommendation: shop Ebay for a Lambda LRS-58-28 .. LRS-58 model.. Shop the "Auction's only", for better prices.. a note from a 618 owner: I have this power supply running at 25 volts, it just sits there quiet as a mouse even in TX Tune mode. It can be turned up to almost 27 volts before its internal over-voltage protection circuit trips. |
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Here's some info i grabbed off the "group.io" It can deliver 62 A peak (at 24V). I felt the price to be fair, so I ordered one. It arrived well packaged, and pretty fast for a China order; within 3 weeks. Turns out it works great with the 618T-3 radio Quality of build is excellent. It is a 24V PSU but there is a trim pot on the right side of the terminal (barely visible on the photos) which allows you to adjust it to 28V (which the pot reaches without a problem with room to spare) It is specified for 62A which might be a bit less
when tweaked to 28V, but I can now modulate my 618T-3 fully (delivering
430 watts PEP in SSB) without the DC voltage dropping in any way
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webmaster
comment: I went to the link on the left for these supplies and
only found a few, I had to look at several auctions before I
found one that runs on 120VAC .. I suggest you search for AC DC 1500W 12V 120A 24V 60A 36V 40A 48V 30A Industrial Switching Power SupplyNOW,, if you view AC5XP's
video, he says
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So AC5XP uses 3 of these in parallel, to give him 60amps they are adjustable to 28 VDC and Luke says they are RF quite.. I looked these up on ebay, the prices are ALL over the place, some as low as $75 each to hundreds each.. these are PULS SL-20 supplies, |
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Control Heads
Control Head, be sure to read "618T sales".
You can
learn a lot about the correct parts and pieces for this radio. There are lots of control heads on Ebay, most are priced "out of sight". If your in a hurry, buy a good one, otherwise I say, take your time and keep looking for one at a reasonable price. |
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This is the 714E-3 Control units,
I am not sure how it differs from the C-3940/ARC-94 (to the right) it
looks the same on the front . There appears to be a wide variety of various part nr. 714E-1 714E-2/-2A/-2B/-2C 714E-3/-3B/-3C/-3D/-3F/-3G/-3H 714E-6/-6A/-6B another slightly interesting item , a test set for these heads ASI-162 link on web link anyone out there have a real picture of this test box ?? |
Military heads that works .. click
it There may be more heads that work , however, this is the only ones I know about . C-3940/ARC-94 Click Front or Back view , _____________________________________ here's a picture of the front and back of the 714E-2.. (commercial) it has a different connector than the Military units. click pictures to make them bigger.. note lack of CW and Data modes pictures from K7APO |
This is the 714E-6. It' s for the
618T-3B Note the 100hz digit Click Front or Back view, bigger |
PLUGS
Getting the plug for the back of the Radio?
THIS is a major problem !!!!!!!!!
When I built my radio setup,
I could have attempted to purchase the female plug for the back of the radio, but
I wanted to sit the
radio in a rack, so I purchased a brand new retro-fit rack 49-T4. This
"retrofit" trick is used so the
aircraft Weight and Balance doesn't need to be recomputed. and the old
aircraft wiring works.
This saves the aircraft owner a lot of money.
the female that mates with the radio, Cannon DPE-60-33s, a 60 pin connector. you might check for DPE-60-33S-A101 |
Here is the female that mates with the commercial (?)control
heads , at least the 714E-2 |
the female that mates with Military control head, Cannon 20-39 (at least that's what mine says) | the female that mates with the 426T-1 400Hz supply , Cannon DPX-32-02-339 |
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NOW, for the URM157 test harness the DC and 400hz AC plugs. My URM157A has a 5 pin plug for the DC, however it appears that most 157's only had a 4 pin connector ??? make sure you know what you need |
AC in 4 pin Amphenol
MS3106A-18-4S
DC in Amphenol
MS3106A-22-22S |
The 18-4S connector is Mouser part number 654-973106A184S
The 22-22s connector is Mouser part number 654-973106A2222S
I like EBAY, shipping is always a killer to overseas locations,
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if you have more info about plugs or any of these numbers are
found to be incorrect, PLEASE let me know.
note: some of the companies I have listed above, to the right, sell these
plugs, HOWEVER, I think they are thieves, asking $200 or more for a
connector !!
if you find the 60 pin connector for $50 to $100 dollars, that's probably
fair, any more and someone is trying to take advantage. If you discover a
source that's fair
buy them all, I bought 7 of these for around $55 each, and sold them
on this web for my cost + 10%, , the six were gone within a few months. now I
have a free spare for my
next project !. Note: I only have one spare, I don't horde .
TEST SET's Proper name ""
Test Harness, Radio set AN/URM157""
Please NOTE: These are great to have, There are
2 different configurations, the older units, on the left
has
a toggle switch to select the type of control head, it does not work
100% with the 3B model radios, it
works except for the 100 Hz switch. there are no wires connecting
the 100 hz switch.
The unit (right) has a rotary switch (bottom row of connectors and switches) IT does include wiring needed for the 3B radio. IF you get the entire test set, it comes with all the cables needed to connect all the 618t parts and pieces together. SO other than needing the Power Supplie(s) you've got what you need to get on the air . Note: many of these sets have been scavenged for the cable that goes between the radio and the Harness.. Look Out when buying |
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AN/URM-157 (Test Harness) higher RES view, Another hi-res view note: The URM-157 test set is for all three 618T models, I've heard that selecting the wrong radio might cause smoke ?? Probably nonsense ??? But as with everything, be careful to plug the radio into the correct connector, and select the correct radio & control head before applying power |
(Test Harness) later version TS1949A/ URM-157A This unit works with all 618T-x versions including the 3B and its 714E-6 head. Note: rotary switch in bottom row, it selects the type of control head to be used. also, the cable is labeled 714E-3/6 so whether this cable works with the E1 or E2 heads is an unknown . Heres a PDF that covers both models TM_116625-622-40.pdf a bigger view of this picture , front controls close up, top plugs close up. |
Collins MK-722A/URC Test set,
it has extenders for the 618 modules.. pdf MR-722/URC maintenacne kit.pdf |
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618T-3B
Late production commercial units
The 618T-3B model does 100hz steps, It has a different synthesizer. The 3B was introduced at the end of the 618T's production and was only offered for commercial service. Since the 3B radio was never offered to the military, the
military AN/URM-157 (Test Harness) is
not wired to accommodate 100Hz steps even if you
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(note 1) looking at
the
interconnect diagram it's a little
hard to make out some of the pin numbers !!
here is a picture of the connector that plugs into the back of the control box
as well as a picture showing the radios pin out..
some confusion: the radio
plug pin 24 goes to ' i ' on the control head .
it looks like there are 2 pins that are labeled number 16 --
NOT so, 16 is to the left of 4 and 18 is to
the left of 60, look close
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Note: the pins on "this diagram" and the pins on the "interconnect draw" are not in the same ORDER ,,, Heads up ! don't get confused
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OK, Guys, be careful, some of these designations
are confusing, The "wire" designations are not the same as the PINS on the control head connector !! here is 3 different views of the same thing
THIS is the connector for |
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Other Webs with 618T information |
* from a British group, which you can find if you
just google collins 618t some
good info heres a link to their PDF https://secure.toolkitfiles.co.uk/clients/22828/sitedata/files/618T_SIG-1.pdf
* look down this link for the "618 overview"
http://www.austradesecure.com/radschool/Vol32/Page5.htm by
VK3XAO Here is a list of non-618t webs about things I find interesting ! * Almost anything military ON8PO pictures http://www.mil-com.be/ * Crypto Museum, This site has a LOT of info, almost too much to digest, very fascinating.. http://www.cryptomuseum.com/ * Need info about a lot of military radios, got something to share with these guys ?? http://radionerds.com/index.php/Main_Page |
OTHER USES FOR THE 618T |
AN/MRC-108
MRC-108 ROMAD , Forward Air Control Jeep,
click the pictures to make them bigger
More pictures and information about a restored jeep at Wright Patterson National Museum USAF. http://www.afdasf.org/mrc108-jeep/mrc-108_jeep.html NICE |
H.F. Transceiver was a AN/MRC-95 by Collins Model Number 618T3, 718F-1 coffin, 313V-1 control head, 618T-3 radio, 426T-1 power inverter,
click for a better picture VC-102 HF communication system |
AN/MRC-117
AND NOW here's another one, the AN/MRC-117 as used with EusCom Command Network in Europe from 1976 to 1984 . Click, here's a story ! from an actual user of this system ,, WA9Z here is the only TO I have on the mrc117, its only covers the mechanical mounting to the truck , no electronics TM 11-2300-370-15-1.pdf Below are some pictures of the control head used in this system , more pictures and a story see LINK |
a note from WA9Z ,
Is this thing cool or what?!! It mounted on a pedestal between the front and rear seat. There is (was) a removable cover on the control head that had a compartment to store audio accys, pens paper, etc. There were privacy curtains on the rear windows and between the front and rear seats, and red lights for cab illumination. The operators had a small desk to write, hand microphone, 2 headsets. and a J-38 on a leg iron. As you can imagine, pretty cramped quarters. Every time a truck deployed the head was installed, and removed when the truck was motor pooled. As such, I spent most of the time repairing the plugs and sockets. Haven't seen one of those since 1979. My research leads me to think there was only a few hundred of these ever built for the Pershing II quick reaction teams. click it to make it bigger
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more pictures and a story see LINK click it to make it bigger
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In the AirForce, these radios were used in so many aircraft, I don't know
if I could list them all, plus I don't know them all !!!
but for sure the C-141 , C130,
Also Civilian aircraft, 707's to the Concord
IN THE NAVY,,? do you have any pictures or info about Navy installations.. please send to webmaster,, tnx
HELP SECTION , WE have questions
anyone have any ideas or info,, these look like the MRC-95
control heads But they are Gray, indicating NAVY ?? ,
these two boxes have slight
differences.
Do you know what radio this type of control box was used for ???
take a look there is a difference something to do with filters,
313V-2
and
313V-2A
here three PDF's to help with this control boxes,,
313V-2 Manual.pdf
313V-2 Schematic.pdf
313V-2 Test Set.pdf
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More info link N6CC |
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TSQ-108 mobile radar station, | |||
the Navy TSQ108...Mobile Inshore Undersea Warfare Unit
1920 sets up the AN/TSQ-108 Radar Sonar Surveillance Center (RSSC) van
at Mare Island CA. Keeping watch – a training exercise circa 1980.
more info LINK N6CC WAY MORE INTERESTING INFO AT THIS LINK Radar, sonar, sonobuoy receiver/ recorder system, VHF R/t x2, and 2 each 618T-3 in a "hut". and 2 whip antennasthe tuners were at the antenna. |
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More navy info, from
David Stovall
I used to work on them in the Navy and got a job after the Navy because I could repair them. The ARC-94/RT-618T2 was used in the P-3 Orion while the ARC-102/RT-618T3 was used on the SH-3 Sea King and the ARC-105/RT-618T1 ( it could have also been called: ARC-105/RT-712) was used on the EA-6B Prowler. I have no pics because I'm pretty sure that would have gotten me courts marshaled. I still remember some about them. Because they use mechanical tuning, they scared a lot of techs into believing they were more complicated than they were. Most of the time when a transceiver came in to the AIMD (Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Department), they weren't so much broken as badly out of tune. Anyway, if I can be of assistance, shoot me an email. ddstovall((at))charter.net David Stovall |
SH-3 Sea King ARC-102/RT-618T3 EA-6B Prowler ARC-105/RT-618T1 P-3 Orion ARC-94/RT-618T2 |
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CH-53E heavy lift helicopter |
CH-46 |
Sorry Ray, I couldn't find a good shot of a Marine 130 this one belonged to the USAF |
Possible First product review ??
Collins Signal Magazine 1960. |
Heres some interesting pictures from the collins PULSE company magazine
some interesting reading, lots to look at see
http://rockwellcollinsmuseum.org/collins_pulse/index_a-z.php#6
click to make it bigger, 1. MRC-108's all in a row |
2. 618's on aircraft | 3. see Collins Canada, click to make bigger |
Operational 618T's Hall of Fame !!
send me your pictures and letters
One left click on most pictures enlarges them !
ON8PO - shown with
antenna tuner , home constructed box for control head and mike and earphone jacks , in a nice transportable display http://mil-com.be/ |
JA6ATY |
PA1TN |
One left click on most pictures enlarges them !
some comments from Leighton GW3FSP:::::
Hi John Just thought I would let you know the 618t is not dead here in the UK !. I worked for British Airways until I retired 2 years ago, about 2 years before then I was given a 618t complete with all the mounting cradles, cabling, control heads, 180r tuner and control system, spares and all the test equipment ( extender units etc ) when BA no longer had any 618t sets in their fleet, these were fitted to the early 747 ' Classic ' or 747 - 100 a/c and of course the Concorde aircraft, it was originally fitted with the 3 phase 400hz 115 volt ht supply, however I managed to pick up one of the 28 volt supplies from Ebay, ( The A8 module, ) The radio I have will tune to 100hz, so I had to add the extra control wires from the mounting frame to the control head, to get the tuning to work down to 100hz, I also had to modify the power supply wiring on the mounting frame to allow the use of the A8 power supply and also fit the extra wiring inside the 618t for the 28volt dc supply, I was also lucky to ' acquire ' a 7amp inverter supply unit from the same source, this is an ELGAR inverter supply unit which supplies ac from 10 hz up to 1000hz at 7 amps. this I use to supply the 400hz 115 volt supply to the 618t. I then bought a 42 amp 28vdc switch mode power supply from Ebay which is used to float an ex aircraft nickel-cadnium 28v battery ( again from BA ) when the radio is in use, it takes a good 38 amps so I'm told when on TX. And after squeezing the whole lot under my shack bench - it works !, and I have to say it works very well!, rx is very quiet with almost no internal noise, the noises thing with the radio is the little cooling fan mounted in the front panel for internal cooling which revs up when on tx. and howls away merrily, it really warms the shack after running the set for about an hour, on ssb I get excellent reports of speech quality using one of the Seinhauser aircraft headsets I also ' acquired ' with a little whine audible from the 28 volt inverter supply on tx audio, apart from that I've had no adverse reports . Hope you are enjoying your hobby, I know I am. 73's Leighton Davies GW3FSP ps I'm in QRZ.com |
some comments from Bob
K8RJ about his radio ::::Just stumbled
across your very interesting page on one of my most favorite radios. Lots of super info. I am Bob K8RJ, started as K9ITS in 1957 in Chicago , spent 18 years out in Orange County California and now live in Michigan's UP. My first 618T-3 was one that I obtained in a government auction back in about 1967. At the time it was just a black box on a pallet full of other surplus stuff. Back then when I had the need for manuals I could go to the Great Lakes Training Center library as a civilian. Lots of things have changed since then, this is no longer possible. Anyway. all I knew about it at the time was it seemed to have two 4CX250s and their sockets and I was thinking of nice linear material. I nearly fell off my chair when I read from the manual what it could do! I was hooked. At the time with a wife, three kids, a mortgage and a full-time job at which I traveled a lot I could not afford the real Collins control head or power supplies. But, I did spring for all the Collins manuals and set about getting my 618T-3 on the air. Back in those days there were many electronic surplus outlets in and around Chicago. I managed to build a brute force 28VDC supply using several huge high current filament transformers with wired series/parallel secondaries, got some 200amp diodes and some computer caps for filtering. For the 400Hz at 115VAC I started with a rotary inverter --- nasty!!! Then I lucked into a nice SS inverter at a hamfest to do the job. Then, I could not afford a real Collins control head by a long shot. But, I had access to many multi section rotary switches at these surplus stores. So, I decided on a Nixie freq. readout and display. I built the display into an old Heathkit defunct Hi Fi amp cabinet that I bought at a ham fest for a buck. I had to buy the actual switch section from Collins for the MHz codes and Nixie display. I wired up the other switches to do the needed codes and used a separate section on each switch to light the Nixies. Lotsa dollars for those Collins MHz switch sections; but much cheaper than a real control head. So, I wired the whole thing up and it worked like a charm. Looked great too. I'll bet the ONLY Nixie readout control head for a 618T-3!!! Eventually I figured out why it likely was surplused out by the Navy. It would only transmit for a couple of minutes then drop off the air. I can imagine that it worked well on the bench then on the aircraft it would drop out, back to the bench and it worked well, etc. So, I scouted around the surplus stores until I found a suitable relay and it worked perfectly with that one for many years. Eventually I sold the entire rig to a local ham who just had to have it and who had deep pockets . . . A few years ago I got the bug for one again now that I am retired. I bought one from a ham in Washington State. Obtained power supplies and a 714E-3 control head. I found the test set at Fair Radio, some power cables and the test set to radio cable with the 60 pin connectors at each end from a surplus dealer on the internet. Much to my disappointment when I put power to it, it was DEAD DEAD DEAD!!! Did some checking and found that the 18VDC power supply was at zero volts. I eventually found the problem to be a shorted electrolytic cap in that power supply. A $1.20 repair part. BUT, US parts suppliers wanted upwards of $10 for shipping of this little item. So, I checked on ebay and found a lot of five of the exact same caps listed by a seller in Rumania -- American made new Kemet caps at that for just $5 USD delivered. That 618T-3 works very well now after I did a little tube replacement and alignment. My very first on the air contact with this one happened to be on 40meters with a fellow ham who serviced them when he was in the US Navy. Since then I have acquired five more 618T-3s one of which receives OK; but, does not transmit. I suspect an incorrect wiring issue in the tray to control head line. This is my current project. It has the mobile type control head. I have not yet tried the others. My goal is to eventually get them all up and running. I have enough control heads, five trays or interconnecting cables, two test harnesses, a 490T and another Collins tuner for them and the module extender set. I once again have a pretty complete manual set. I used the sources that you listed on your 618T page as well as Newark for some of the connectors. Fair Radio was a very good source. But, I did find three of the trays on ebay. Two of them were only $30 each complete with the 60 pin connector; BUT, shipping from Australia was a REAL killer!!! Sigh --- as they seem to be made of unobtainium one has to pay the price. I am very sorry that this is getting so long. But, maybe some of this is of interest to other 618T () users. I am no expert just lucky; but, if any one has questions, I would be happy to try to help them. 73 de Bob K8RJ |
GI4OYM |
IZ2FLX Dear John, |
Carlo IK2CNC
, has two 618T's fully
functional plus lots of other goodies. I had three pictures, and loss them (somewhere) got this picture form QRZ
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Lampros SV8FCF had his 618T up and running, |
home brew 28vdc to 400 cycle converter, |
Lampros also has a jeep, maybe some day he will get all the parts to
make a MRC-95 mobile installation ?? |
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Roger F6FER |
The 618T-3 is placed on two aluminum angle pieces fixed to a mounting base plate in the bay. Low voltage power is supplied by a pair of Lambda 28V-23A PSUs, one supplies power to the transmitter section of the transceiver, the other one feeds the receiver section and utilities. The 110V-400 Hz is supplied from a home made pure sine inverter. The control box is a 714E-3, and is inserted on a home made 19" mounting panel with jacks for Phones, Mike/PTT, Key, Data input and a switch for the pilot lamps. The set up is completed by a Collins antenna coupler CU-351/AR and a home made VSWR meter. I was lucky enough to get the rear connector for the transceiver and the circular connector for the control box, it is not easy to find parts at a fair price in France. All remaining mounting, wiring and connections are home brewed. I have 2 other T3s, one is OK for reception, the other one is out of service. Food for trouble shooting. I am not an expert, just a lover of these Collins beasts. 73 Roger F6FER |
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Dear John, I want to thank you for your help and your patience. My 618T-3 is working well, I used it in several QSO with no problem, excellent frequency stability, good output power. The only problem that remains to be solved is the fan noise, but I think there is no solution! After all, it is part of the charm of the radio!! Attached you will find a photo of my setup, I hope you will like it. Thank you again John, I hope to find you on frequency. 73 de Paolo, iw6bet |
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Here is a photo of my Collins airborne station at my newQTH in California. I have two of the 714U-5M's - one pictured and another in my garage. I still have three 618T-3B's plus I found a second test box that supports 100Hz steps plus another 714E-6 control head just a few months ago in England.73 de Norm - WA3KEY
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some of the PDF's on this page came from
http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/all.mpl
wheres there's MANY US Military manuals.
LOTS of military radio system manuals are at
http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/military/
I hope this page has helped you in some way to make sense of all the parts and
pieces of the 618 radios. please contact me if your in my part of
the world, for
a eyeball QSO at my house, , see the info at the top of this page
Non 618T books you can download Harris RF-550Book for Harris RF-550 a big file !!! TBX-8 ww2
military transmitter receiver Books for Southern Avionics Company Low Frequency airport
beacons |
Hello all: its a bit hard to believe this web as been active for over 11 years and has had lots of ''lookers'' most probably just looked and said, THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS .. HI HI ,,, However, I hope I've helped some of you get your radio working, or at least taken some of the confusion out of the process. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It's NOT my intention to be "First in a Google search", or to out do anyone else's web... I've heard that some folks are mad because this web comes up number one on a search... Just to make it clear I have no control over Google... I wish everyone good luck getting your radio on the air... John Wilson KØIP IF you haven't, send in some pictures of your radio and yourself for the ""hall of fame"". |